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show or hide details for this item Alternative approach to discussing categories as-categories: special flag in entry Blog Entry 1 reply1 resource 23-January-2005 Mike Malloch
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Steve has pointed out that the existing trackback system would have to be hacked a bit to effect linking entries with pseudo-pages for categories. I'm too knackered and busy with OSSITE upgrading to hack the TB system right now, but it occurred to me that an alternative to co-opting TB is to have a flag on entries to determin the 'direction' of the association with their categories.

RE the proposed development of a system for discussion and agreeing categories:

I was hoping to actually implement discussion of categories as-categories this weekend, ahead of launching the upgrade to the sigossee site and deploying Alan's work-related learning activity tomorrow. But it's been a ton of work getting the sigossee site upgraded, and I won't be able to do the changes to the trackback system needed, let alone all the extra little templates and query methods :o(

On the other hand, it occurred to me early this morning that, instead of linking categories with entries with trackback to effect the 'other direction' of associating entries and categories, we could either have a special subclass of entry, or just a flag to say that 'in this post, the post is about the categories, not the other way round. Then we could assign a pseudo-category to these entries of 'discussing categories', and render special links for the categories into the entry - pointing to an aggregation interface which shows discussion of those categories etc.

The obvious flaw with the simple flag approach, is that it is easy to envisage cases where there are some categories about the entry and a different set which the entry is about. I shudder at the thought of subclassing the entry types - especially at the thought of making the entry forms even more complicated, but this might be the right approach. there are plenty of other cases for which I've thought of subclassing post : events for instance, or XML structured data like our old lit-review objects.

Needs more thought :o)

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This is likely the way to proceed Discussion Topic 0 replies 23-January-2005 Mike Malloch
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23-January-2005 18:56:58
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04-October-2005 18:44:15
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After some thought, this seems the best way forward. Saves cluttering trackback space. It will though require more than a flag.

After some thought, I realised it was about time we faced up to the issue of subclassing the blog and discussion objects. This is as good a case as any for it, since it is at least central to the collaboration system.

I'll post agin when we've had useful ideas on the matter.