It may be that rather than move straight to Perosnal Learning Environments we will move to a half way type solution between VLEs and PLEs. The big question for me is ownership. VLEs are at the end of the day institutionally controlled. PLEs are learner controlled. This effects the relationship between the learner and the 'teacher' as mediated through the institution. In a PLE the teacher is only one of a number of possible 'peers' involved in the learning process and the institution one of a number fo different contexts in which learning takes place. If I sound confused it is becuase I am! But more confusing still I think is the relationship of currilcum to learning. So far I think we have attempted to represent trandtional curriculum through the use of ICT. I increasingly feel we need to see a dialectical relationship between the form of learning and the subject of learning as represnted in curriculum. So we need new tools and processes for learning - sure - but we also need new forms of the subject of learning in terms of curriculum.